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January 28th, 2011 by Admin

Hello, and welcome to the partial list of project pages for the UIUC engagement with Mt. Joy Baptist Church in Edwardsville, IL.  For their official website, please visit http://www.mtjoymbc.org/

Wireless?

December 2nd, 2009 by Admin

I received a call from Keith Thomas last night who asked about wireless internet. He said that church leaders are meeting tonight at 6:30. I wanted to send this email this morning, so the church leaders can have it tonight at their meeting (of which I will be available by phone for if there are any questions). Could you please make sure the appropriate people receive this?

There are a few things to consider when doing wireless:
1. The computers would need some sort of wireless card. You can purchase USB wireless converters:http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10760297 (price 21.88) I realize that you are a church, but these could be easy to steal. If you think that might be a problem, you could have your computer users check them in/out.

Here are a few other options:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.doproduct_id=13215309http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10929514

2. We would have to make sure that your signal would reach all of your computers. I don’t know how strong the wireless signal is in the basement. If it is not strong, you would have to buy a wireless router.

3. This is less secure than a wired connection.

4. The internet will not work as well if all the computers are being used at once.

I have asked Martin about this because I am not familiar with wireless internet, and here is what he says about it:

“Wireless makes me nervous – anyone who’s wondered around GSLIS, which is a carefully designed wireless install, looking for a sufficiently strong signal to work on their laptop knows how fickle it can be. But on the other hand, it certainly would provide them with the type of flexibility they were seeking. The other downside of wireless is that it is a shared bandwidth media. If several desktops are doing something that requires high bandwidth, then wireless won’t be up to snuff. Finally, wireless doesn’t come cheap. It looks like for 8 wireless USB adapters it would run around $320. I don’t know how much the wire track, face plates, and female RJ45′ would run, but I don’t think it would be that much. And as you point out, the USB adapters can be easily removed and re purposed outside the building.

All in all, it might be technically feasible and we (AB2 students (these are additional students besides are group) and I could be there
to help  could certainly give it a try if they were interested, but it’s not the kind of slam dunk, definitely would work, type of thing that the wired plan would be. But for the ultimate in flexible labs, it certainly could have some merit.”

Mt. Joy Update 11/21/09

November 15th, 2009 by Admin

Hello!

Here are some updates for our computer lab:

Coming down to see you:
We will be arriving in Edwardsville on December 4th around noon and staying until 5. On Saturday, we will be there around 8:30 until we finish. We would like to spend some time with you to go over how the computers work and how to move them around. We are going to be having other students from our class help us set your computer lab up and do the wiring.

Things you need to do before our arrival:
1. Drill 1/2″ holes in the floor of the office and conference room to allow for wiring. See the “networkingplanmap.doc” for an approximate locations of where we will be putting our outlets (and hence where you should drill your holes).
2. Get tables and chairs
3. We would like to make sure that our wiring is going to be able to go through your drop ceiling in the basement. Could you take a look and make sure that the wall that separates the smaller rooms from the main room in the basement does not extend up through the drop ceiling? If it does, then holes will need to be drilled through that wall to accommodate the wiring.

Windows XP: We have gone ahead and started installing XP because Martin has assured us that you have purchased the XP keys. You should be receiving stickers that we will need to put on the computers when we arrive.

Microsoft Office versus Open Office:
We still need to know your decision on getting Microsoft Office versus Open Office. We will proceed with installing Open Office on Monday (11/30) if we don’t have an answer about this. You could always purchase Microsoft Word in the future.

Wiring Plan:
Attached I (Jill) have compiled a wiring plan for the labs. Included is a map (networkingplanmap.doc) of the approximate locations of all your “wall track sets,” a break down of what is needed by each wall track set (networkingplan1.doc), and a chart breaking down the quantity (quantifiables.doc) needed of each piece of hardware. The quantifiables.doc also includes links to Lowes, giving you examples of what you need to buy. The hardware will cost about $135.

I have done my best to explain in the networkingplan1 document what is needed, but we are open to going shopping for the hardware when we arrive. That way we can discuss the hardware and other options that you have (which is much easier to do in person, rather than by email!).

We will be providing the actual wires and switch.

As always, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Feel free to call.

networkingplan1
Quantifiables
MJnetworkingplanmap

Lab and time constraints

November 9th, 2009 by Admin

Hello, Ms. Covington.

I’m sorry that we’re e-mailing you so much, but we’re getting nervous about being able to complete everything on time for the computer lab. At this point, we have two weeks until Thanksgiving break (which lasts one full week) in which to work on the 8 computers we have for you. After Thanksgiving break, we will have one week until December 4th and 5th when we would like to deliver the computers to Mt. Joy. In order for the computers to be ready to set up at Mt. Joy we need to have operating systems installed with drivers, updates, security and anti-virus software, and word processing software (Microsoft Office or Open Office). All of these installations take time (between 30 minutes and many, many hours) for us to load onto each computer, and will need to be done here in Champaign. Because the three of us are taking other classes and working part-time jobs, we aren’t able to wait much longer to do this.

We would really like to know at what point you are in the process of purchasing the product licenses for the Microsoft XP operating systems and getting them to us because we are running out of time. Are you able to get them to us by Thursday, November 12? We’ll need to move forward in installing operating systems next Friday, and we may need to use a Linux operating system (because we have free and ready access to it) if we aren’t able to get the licenses. Is there anything we can do to help you in securing the Windows XP licenses? We really want you to have Microsoft XP for the lab, so please let us know how we can help.

I don’t think we ever really established that you were our primary contact for this project, but is there someone else that we should be talking to about this?

Please contact either of us by phone as soon as possible (anytime, even during the weekend), as we feel discussing this over the phone would be more effective than email.

We are working hard to provide Mt. Joy with everything you need to fulfill all your computer lab needs, we’re just under unfortunate time constraints. On a positive note, we have two computers running Microsoft XP, with drivers and updates loaded, and they’re running great!

Response

Thank you for your persistence and patience in this joint venture. We had a meeting on this past Saturday, of which funding was approved to purchase the software this week. I will go online and purchase the license and have the company forward the codes to you as you have requested. I apologize for the delay; however there are processes in place at our church and I have to follow the procedures that are in place which involve deacon boards and trustees that provide final approval of all purchases. I did everything that I could to place a rush on the process.

I appreciate all of your emails and I have shared them with the committee including Pastor Jackson and church officers to make them aware of the time issues. I will place the order this evening and contact you upon completion.

A few questions: Would you please confirm the type of computers that we are getting (i.e. Dell, etc.) and the additional wiring that is needed to ensure wireless internet in the lower level of the church.

Thank you for all of your efforts!

Arlene Covington

Techsoup and product keys

November 5th, 2009 by Admin

Hello, Ms. Covington.

I wanted to further explain what Mt. Joy needs to do in order to get Windows XP from techsoup.org.

Follow this link:http://www.techsoup.org/stock/product.asp?catalog_name=techsoupmain&category_name=servers%20ms&product_id=ls-2325&cat1=microsoft&cat2=servers%20ms&catcount=2&visit=1

You will need to order 6 copies of the Windows XP Professional upgrade, at $8 each for a total of $48. In purchasing these upgrades, you’re buying 6 license keys for the product, which will allow you to legally run Windows XP as your operating system (rather than the older Windows operating systems which are currently running on the computers we have for you). When purchasing these licenses, you’ll have the option of receiving the installation media (which we assume is the installation CD) shipped to you free of charge. While we have copies of the installation CDs here, we suggest that you elect to have the CDs sent to us (Martin Wolske’s address is given below). When we come to set up the lab on December 4 and 5, we’ll bring everything with us to pass on to you.

We don’t know whether you will receive the product installation keys (the licenses) in an e-mail or in the mail with the installation media. Either way, we will need those installation keys in order to install the Windows XP operating system. If when going through the ordering process it sounds like the license keys are going to be sent through the mail, please have them sent to Martin Wolske (c/o Graduate School of Library and Information Science, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 501 E. Daniel St., Champaign, IL 61820).

Additionally, it appears that you’ll need to register with techsoup.org in order to order through them. We don’t know if you’ll need to send them documentation verifying your 501(c)3 status.

We have one more question for you. Would you like to use Microsoft Office (available through techsoup.org for $16, and you would need to buy 8, for a total of $128) or Open Office (free)? If you’d like to go with Microsoft Office, you can order it at the same time you order the Windows XP operating system, but this is not a priority at this time.

Response

Thank you, I will follow up once the order is made. If I need help I will contact Jill.

Thanks,

Arlene

Response

Hi, Ms. Covington.

I just wanted to check in with you to see how the ordering process is going. We’d like to begin installing the operating systems this Friday, so we’ll need the keys as soon as possible.

Response

I am somewhat confused, in your previous email the date for installation was Dec. 4th and 5th. We have a meeting Saturday morning to finalize things. Please explain further what you mean about needing keys as as soon as possible?

Thank you,

Arlene

Response

Hi, Ms. Covington.

I’m sorry for the confusion. By keys, I mean product keys– for the Microsoft XP operating systems that you are ordering. We need the product keys to install the operating systems on the computers.

Response

Thank you for the clarification. I will forward that information as soon as I have it.

Thanks,

Arlene

Lab questions

October 26th, 2009 by Admin

Hi, Ms. Covington!

We wanted to update you on our progress with the computers for Mt. Joy. We have 8 computers for you, and 2 of them have Windows XP already installed.
We were wondering what the progress was on your decision-making regarding the operating system? Also, could you please tell us whether you have 501(c)3 status (you would be able to get Windows XP and Office for a cheaper price through Techsoup).
Here is some information on the Linux Mint operating system, which we feel is quite similar to the Windows operating system (but Linux is free!):http://www.linuxmint.com/screenshots.php
We need to know your decision regarding the operating systems by Wednesday, October 28.

Response

Yes, Mt. Joy has 501 (c) 3 status and we would like to go with Windows XP if we can get it for the cheeper price; if not then we would like to use the Linux system. That is awesome news about the computers that you have for us. We are all very excited!!

Thank you,

Arlene Covington

Mt. Joy computer lab project

October 12th, 2009 by Admin

Hello, Ms. Covington!

Please find our site report for the Mt. Joy computer lab project attached. Also, please share this report with Pastor and Mrs. Jackson (we did not have their e-mail addresses). We would like to hear back from you about the questions we pose in the attached document as soon as possible.

Response

It is nice to hear from you all. I wanted to let you know that I have received and read your report. I also shared the report with Pastor & Mrs. Jackson. I will forward a response to you very soon after Pastor and Mrs. Jackson review the report and respond. I hope that everything is going well for you all. We are looking forward to working with you. You will hear from me very soon.

Thank you,

Arlene Covington
Mt. Joy MB Church